German cruisers tier 4+ as well as the newly buffed Japanese 100mm guns follow a 1/4 rule. 51mm times 1.3 is 66.3mm meaning it can pen 66mm armor. Check the system settings for your microphone and lower its volume if necessary. Epic battles rage across the oceans of the world in order to claim victory among teams comprised of the greatest representatives from the era of multi-ton marine giants. July 15, 2020 WoWs Videos 27:28. German 203mm guns on T8+ cruisers can pen 64mm of armor, so can cross that 50mm threshold. With IFHE IJN 100mm guns can pen 32mm of armor. Just that by the method you were using, it would come out to the wrong value. Yes, rounding would make a difference. P.S. Here are ones I have looked up recently. 130mm gun divided by 6 is 21.667mm. Yep, that is why I multiplied by 1.3 for the +30%. Round the .167 down to result in 21mm. IFHE is needed to penetrate 32mm plating but wont be enough to pen 38mm plating which are present on USN BBs. Note that as per update 0.9.2 IFHE now halves the BASE fire chance of shells. However, long ago I tested IFHE on Scharnhorst and got citadels on Omaha and other light cruisers. 27mm? Friesland will see some cruisers with more than 25mm bow/deck armor, so IFHE wont help with them, but it will still pen the bulk of what it faces. The Svietlana has 25mm side plating, so IFHE helps with that, but the citadel armor on all of these cruisers is too tough for IFHE; St Louis, Phoenix, Svietlana, Caledon, and Danae. Here is my build. 19mm? From my point of view it would be easier to find info here http://proships.ru/stat/na/ships for every ship. Here is the wiki to the HE pen and how IFHE is calculated. My Tickets My Bans All articles Voice Chat: Settings and Troubleshooting. 1) The guns don't really benefit from the extra pen. Which is why I find it easier to work "backwards" from the target armor thickness than work from the shell caliber and divide. For IFHE, take the rounded shatter number and multiple by 1.3. What armor values do you want to pen? World of Warships. I normally only use IFHE for ships that have guns close to 150s, so normally I avoid it on DDs. IFHE on the 102mm secondary guns can pen the fore and aft of the Myogi, Ishizuchi, Kongos, Wyoming, Texas, New York, Nikolai I, Oktyabrskaya Revolutsiya, Kaiser, Konig, Orion, Iron Duke, Courbet, Bretagne, and Giulio Cesare. 25mm times 1.3 is 32.5, which would in the first step, be rounded down. The main guns don't have a difference on BB armor with or without IFHE as the armor is either under 56mm or over 73mm. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------. 25mm x 6 is 150mm, so my 152mm HE will not pen 25mm unless I use IFHE - makes the decision a bit more black and white. Use mouse for tips, there are some. So 51mm shatters HE, but pens 50mm or below. You can multiply those numbers by 6 or 4 depending on your ship so see what caliber is needed to pen, if your guns are just shy, add IFHE. 127mm HE shatters on 21mm or more of armor and pens 20mm or below. Round the .167 down to result in 21mm. I already made two charts in official forum. The 180mm shells can pen 29mm of armor, but IFHE can give 38mm of pen. The armor on T3-T5 DDs is mostly 6mm to 15mm thick, so IFHE isn't needed for most DDs. Here is the MM spread for a ship in a particular tier. To penetrate 50mm (the side of a khaba or Yammy deck armor) you need to be the Hindy, or the Henri IV with IFHE. Say I'm a 203 Mogami; does a higher pen value with IFHE mean my HE rounds travel further inside a Bismarck's superstructure, penning more compartments … Feel free to opt in or out. 127mm HE shatters on 22mm or more of armor and pens 21mm or below. World of Warships World of Warships is a naval action MMO, dipping into the world of large-scale sea battles of the first half of the twentieth century. 127mm gun divided by 6 is 21.167mm. @RivertheRoyal@mrmariokartguy what do you think? What you guys recommend for captain build, thanks. Anyone can edit the wiki, so if you want you can have a shot at it. If the number has a remainder, then it pens the rounded down armor. ; 2020-08-06 New flags will be added later. With IFHE 203mm guns can pen 42mm of armor. If this change applies to all HE shells, all 127mm guns will be able to penetrate 21mm plating, which is found on the central part of Gearing. AFT and CE seem more useful for 4 point skills. The Yorck's 210mm guns with IFHE can pen 67mm of armor. Here are the rules per the wiki HE pen. The usual jump is from 32mm to 50mm, so IFHE doesn't help regular 203mm guns much at all. Friesland will see some cruisers with more than 25mm  bow/deck armor, so IFHE wont help with them, but it will still pen the bulk of what it faces. Round the .667 up to result in 22mm. SAP shells: often have a higher maximum damage than the gun's AP; ... A thorough understanding of armor penetration mechanics in World of Warships is recommended to help you select the best ammunition for the situation. With IFHE 150mm German T4+ cruiser guns can pen 48mm of armor. They get radio messages to plot on a chart table, not computer generated virtual reality images put on Bridge view ports to see out of the smoke or though the island as if they see target themselves. This is because the Karlsruhe follows the 1/4 HE pen rule.. Commander Skills World of Warships - full descriptions for the WoWS commander skills, play the free multiplayer pc game about battleships with your friends IFHE is tempting, but a 12% reduction to a Buddy's base detect range of 13.4 km would get me down to 11.8, which seems huge. Some folks run it on Blys because it gets HE pen up to 25mm, useful against cruisers at the tiers it sees, putting it on Friesland will do the same because its the same gun caliber. 203mm divided by 4 is 50.75mm, rounded to 51mm. I omitted details yes, but never quoted "65mm" however, the concept does still remain. Further, adding 30% to something is the same as multiplying it by 1.3. The penalty to firing chance changes with caliber now. Kiev has 130mm guns. The IFHE skill. With IFHE 127mm guns can pen 27mm of armor. I was doing the same thing until I took a closer look at the wiki and saw the rounding on the regular HE pen. I've been running IFHE on mine and it's nothing impressive. So your Hindy example is technically correct, but by accident. To pen high tier BB Bow armor, 32mm, you need a minimum caliber of 192mm with all but German. Currently I'm in a bit of a pickle. Click on a ship for fitting. By That rounding can make a difference over just multiplying by the 1/6 or 1/4 by 1.3. 25mm? And unless you're a mental math wiz (maybe you are), most can't figure out most of this in their head on the fly which is why I noted specific armor values which are significant to the game without specific caliber-pen values. The value for each caliber appears in the chart below. 2020-04-18 Ads added, disabled by default. This is the build I recommend for Friesland. http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Gunnery_%26_Armor_Penetration#HE_penetration. 152mm gun divided by 6 is 25.33mm. :). I mentioned it countless times on streams and Q&As, this was included in release article about skills, but still, many players don't realize the best and the worst uses. 50mm? ex 180mm gun divide by 6 is 30mm, so it can pen 29mm of armor. 30mm times 1.3 is 39mm, so 180mm IFHE can pen 38mm of armor. 50.75mm times 1.3 is 65.975mm, so by your method it would pen 65mm which is wrong. Round the .667 up to result in 22mm. I'm thinking the following as these match the numbers in the chart Turbo07 provided for the armor values for those locations on the DM. I have some concerns about the HE penetration change for 0.9.2 among DDs. 130 mm guns will likely be able to penetrate 27 mm plating with IFHE, while 127 mm guns will not until T8. Luckily, she plays quite similarly to the previous ships in the French battleship line, so lessons learned in the previous ships will be useful with République.She is primarily a "flanker", relying on her mobility and good accuracy to punish enemy broadsides from unexpected … On Scharnhorst, IFHE is a waste of a skill. So you don't need IFHE vs DDs, but IFHE on Kiev comes in handy vs cruisers and T6 & T7 BB bows.----- The 130mm guns on the Bogatyr pen 20mm of armor without IFHE and pen 27mm of armor with IFHE. Basically, look at the gun(s) you want to see if IFHE can help with. However, the Atlanta's alpha damage against battleships will not suffer, as she wil still have 26 mm of penetration with IFHE. The 130mm guns on the Bogatyr pen 20mm of armor without IFHE and pen 27mm of armor with IFHE. All of these CL/CAs have thick enough citadel belt armor that IFHE still won't penetrate with the main guns, Furutaka, St Louis, Phoenix, Marblehead, Omaha, Murmansk, Svietlana, Krasny Krym, Caledon, Danae and Emerald. Not a perfect captain, but it's OK for now. From there you can add 30% to find your new pen with IFHE. YMMV. I didnt put IFHE on my Blys captain, but am considering it. None of the rest of the DDs can withstand 130mm HE. 2) Friesland is all about that DOT, so losing fire chance no good. Commander Skills World of Warships - full descriptions for the WoWS commander skills, play the free multiplayer pc game about battleships with your friends Also of note, the Karlsruhe HE shell has .01 ' Projectile detonator' vs .001 for other HE shells. Before I start I must credit the creation to a fellow named Iku_19 from the WOWS subreddit for the creation of this table. The resulting figure is the shatter threshold. 100mm IJN guns, primaries and secondaries can pen 24mm of armor without IFHE. I never said that you quoted 65mm. Everyone complains about T5, but why does no one complain about T2? 127mm gun divided by 6 is 21.167mm. World of Warships- German Battleship Guide. Round the .33 down to 25mm and the gun pens 24mm of armor. So you don't need IFHE vs DDs, but IFHE on Kiev comes in handy vs cruisers and T6 & T7 BB bows. So to go over the rules here, most ships follow the 1/6 rule for HE pen. To decide whether or not to use IFHE, it might be better to work backwards. German 203mm guns on T8+ cruisers can pen 49mm of armor without IFHE. Then check the MM spread to see if you need IFHE or if it is a toss up depending on what you can pen. It may appear in the future. Now, since the Orion secondaries have a 3.5km range (4.2km with AFT), I don't think it would be worth it to put IFHE on the Orion, but YMMV. What you guys recommend for captain build, https://worldofwarships.com/en/content/captains-skills/?skills=1,8,12,18,20,23,25,28&ship=Destroyer. Therefore a significant portion of the ship's interior space is needed for the every-day activities, but has no direct effect … (Yes, sometimes your method reveals the right number, but can mess up the IFHE number if you do not round properly.). Player Support. Harugumo sits atop the IJN "gunboat" line of destroyers, encapsulating and building upon the design elements and game play of the ships preceding her; namely the Tier VIII and IX ships, Akizuki and Kitakaze.Armed with ten 100 mm rifles and a single sextuplet torpedo launcher, she is a ship of absolutes; she has the highest base hit points of all Tier X destroyers, … The 155mm shells can pen 25mm of armor, but IFHE gives them 33mm of pen, so it is helpful when seeing 32mm of armor at the higher tiers. WoWS Stats & Numbers - best online tool for stats browsing and progress tracking for World of Warships. Menu. Calculate the HE pen and IFHE pen. ex. With IFHE, the 102mm guns can pen 21mm of armor and the main guns can pen 73mm of armor. All Discussions ... IFHE is being renamed to "Threshing". Why are other players hearing me as too loud or distorted? The 150mm to 152mm shells can pen 24mm of plate. 22mm times 1.3 is 28.6mm, so 130mm IFHE pens 28mm of armor. So for ships seeing armor of 32mm, IFHE is helpful for 180mm guns. I don't find it's necessary. It feels like you don't have the punch of 203s, but you've got their shitty long reload. ex. Karl also has slightly higher HE alpha than Konigsberg. Now I want to test reddit's syntax to combine them into single chart. ex. ex. JediMasterDraco, August 7, 2018 in General Game Discussion. HE. Poor Karlsruhe needs range buff though to be any fun for me. Your microphone volume may be boosted or turned up to the maximum. Round the resulting figure down if it is .5 or below. The_Netrider, November 17, 2019 in Destroyers, Friesland Ifhe yes or not ? République has a fairly unique play style compared to that of the other Tier X battleships. With IFHE, 130mm guns can pen 27mm of armor. You need to play a total of 20 battles to post in this section. Very nice video. Also of note, the Karlsruhe HE shell has .01 ' Projectile detonator' vs .001 for other HE shells. Contact EdibleBug on Reddit for service related issues. Everything else can be penned in the belt without IFHE. For Germans you need 128mm. Thank you, that's right. The Umikaze has 25mm of side plating, so IFHE helps with 1 DD in the T2-T4 range. IFHE will reduce the firechance by half, increase the HE penetration by 25%, BUT now your HE pen doesn't have … It would be wrong for IFHE though. I am also aware that a few ship are missing. This change should make IFHE more viable on DDs and reduce its excessive performance on some cruisers. ; 2020-04-30 Google Ad enabled by default while making adjustment. Well WG gave us a look at the upcoming IFHE changes and.....oh boy I've been playing Tallinn the past few days and I struggle to do significant damage with it. See also: Damage Saturationfor an in-depth explanation. For BBs, it'll only cost 2 skill points, for DDs it'll cost 3, for Cruisers it'll remain 4. The Kawachi, Myogi, South Carolina and Nassau all have 25mm of deck plating, so IFHE will help with that. Leaderboards, ships statistics and configurations, … The Mikasa, Kawachi, Myogi, Ishizuchi, South Carolina, Wyoming, Nikolai I, Kaiser, Bellerophon, Orion, Turenne, and Courbet all can be penned fore and aft without IFHE. 2. Armor less thick will be penned. The longer delay between contact and detonation means it can pen more. 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